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investors continue to watch washington and talks on the so called fiscal cliff. november job numbers are also due out tomorrow. jobless claims fell sharply last week. the labor department said applications fell to 370,000. claims had temporarily spiked last month after superstorm sandy. analysts say the effects of the storm are still being seen in the four week average which stands at 408,000. >>> there is new information tonight about an albany middle school teacher who killed himself after being accused of sex allegations. 28-year-old james isam saki killed himself in september after police arrested him and searched his home. since then there has been debate about the extent of the crimes. according to court documents unsealed today, he exchanged thousands of flirtatious messages with an under aged student along with open mouth kissing and fondling on campus. police say there were several victims. >>> police in mountain view have just released photos of an i.d. theft woman. the woman is impersonating a customer in downtown maintain view. the woman made unauthor
investors continue to watch washington and talks on the so called fiscal cliff. november job numbers are also due out tomorrow. jobless claims fell sharply last week. the labor department said applications fell to 370,000. claims had temporarily spiked last month after superstorm sandy. analysts say the effects of the storm are still being seen in the four week average which stands at 408,000. >>> there is new information tonight about an albany middle school teacher who killed himself...
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. >> time is running out to avoid a so called fiscal cliff. now a warning about how it could bring the economy to a stand still. >> and what begans as a royal pregnancy prank by two australian djs has a tragic ending. what happened to >>> we're tracking this for you in eastern contra costa county. you can see the scene of a horrific accident here. at least one body has been found on the scene believed to be that of a young boy.wikkg investigators right now are looking for a second body here at this crash site. you can imagine, traffic on the highway is backed up for miles right now. we'll keep following this for you. >> some lucky families now have $20,000 available to make a down payment on a house after attending an event held by wells fargo bank. it's called city lift. for those who qualify it's a life changing experience. laura anthony joins us live now in oakland. >> this he dent vent still qog on. it's a two day event here. before it's over tomorrow evening, about a thousand people could go through here, for hose who qualify for at sis s
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tahman bradley has latest from washington. >> reporter: fiscal cliff talks have hit a stalemate only 29 days to go, republicans and democrats remain far apart over the weekend there was worry negotiations might fail. >> i think we are going over the cliff, it is clear they've made a political calculation. >> reporter: president obama and his team are demanding that congress allow bush era tax cuts to expire. >> there is no responsible way we can govern this country with those low rates in place for future generations those rates have to go up. >> reporter: republicans have drawn a line in the sand on raising tax rates signaling they are open to raising revenue by reforming the tax code and limiting reductions for the wealthy. >> right now i would say we are nowhere. >> reporter: president obama asking for 1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over 10 years, boehner is offering half that. the president offering 600 billion dollars in cuts to medicare and other programs. the speaker says that is not enough. he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff
tahman bradley has latest from washington. >> reporter: fiscal cliff talks have hit a stalemate only 29 days to go, republicans and democrats remain far apart over the weekend there was worry negotiations might fail. >> i think we are going over the cliff, it is clear they've made a political calculation. >> reporter: president obama and his team are demanding that congress allow bush era tax cuts to expire. >> there is no responsible way we can govern this country with...
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cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king with the bloomberg business report. >>> good morning. if you are thinking of flying over the holidays and don't have a ticket yes, book fast. airfares are up 4% compared to last year now that advanced purchase window can keep costs down if you buy 21 days in advance. if you are looking to save, christmas day airfares are cheaper along with december 27th and 31st, 17th and 18, may be good. congress gearing up to overall haul student loan debt collection wisconsin representative expected to introduce a measure this week
cliff. this morning president obama will host some of nation's governors to spread his message. the president wants to raise 1.6 trillion in revenue by increasing taxes on top 2% of income earners. republicans countered with plan it would raise 800 billion dollars in revenue but doesn't call for raising tax rates on the wealthy the proposal was quickly rejected by the white house. >>> if you plan to fly anywhere for the holiday, book your flight right away. >> here's jane king...
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higher close for stocks yesterday on signs of possible progress in the fiscal cliff negotiations. netflix ceo in the hot seat saying the company's online viewing exceeded a billion hours in june for the first time. posting on facebook does not qualify as the fair public disclosure of information publicly traded companies are supposed to give. if you have a student loan it may get easier to pay it back. the program -- allows students who started taking loans after october 1st, 2007 to plead financial hard ship and limit payments and have the loans forgiven after 20 years. do have you old appliances that need replacing? the so-called consumer durable goods owned by americans are the oldest in nearly half a century. research says that could mean a big spending spree is on the way that could stimulate the u.s. economy. at the new york stock exchange, i'm jane king. >>> attempted jail break didn't go as planned. left screaming for help after he got stuck halfway through a wall. firefighters came to his aid. the 28-year-old had followed a fellow inmate, probably a skinnier one. official
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with all this talk about the fiscal cliff, what does it really mean for you, your money, and your safety. join us at 6:00. >>> in the rue search finds facebook may be tressing you out. people with friends from self different social circles are more likely to feel anxiety because of the pressure and expectations of the simultaneous audiences. 64% of people are friends with their exes, 56% or friends with their current significant other. that does it for us. thank you for joining us. the abc-7 news exclusive alarm clock epa is available for you android. here's a live look outside. captioned by closed captioning services inc. >>> this is "world news." tonight, the daring rescue. an american doctor from colorado taken hostage in afghanistan. lifted to safety by a special forces team in the middle of the night. tonight, we are learning one of the american warriors who helped save that doctor did not survive. >>> vanished. the breaking news tonight. the plane carrying a mexican american icon, a singer love bid so many americans,
with all this talk about the fiscal cliff, what does it really mean for you, your money, and your safety. join us at 6:00. >>> in the rue search finds facebook may be tressing you out. people with friends from self different social circles are more likely to feel anxiety because of the pressure and expectations of the simultaneous audiences. 64% of people are friends with their exes, 56% or friends with their current significant other. that does it for us. thank you for joining us. the...
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cliff, a northern virginia couple to highlight his push for extending current tax rates for everyone but the top 2%. new associated press poll shows there is clear support for mr. obama's plan in the poll 48% want the tax cuts on incomes exceeding quarter million dollars a year to expire in january while continuing them for everyone else. 32% want to renew the tax cuts for everyone. findings seem to strengthen the president's hand in his negotiations >> recall alert for parents from 7 on your side. government is taking action against makers of nap nanny, a portable baby recliner, after five infanned -- five infant deaths. the nap nanny poses risk of injury and death to infants. the commission says it is a dangerous product with a faulty sign. coming up on "good morning america" at 7:00, why the makers are refusing to pull its product. >>> this afternoon cal will hold a news conference to introduce the bear's new coach, sonny dykes has hired yesterday to rebill the program he leaves louisiana tech after three seasons. this year -- his bulldogs led the nation in scoring. he runs spread
cliff, a northern virginia couple to highlight his push for extending current tax rates for everyone but the top 2%. new associated press poll shows there is clear support for mr. obama's plan in the poll 48% want the tax cuts on incomes exceeding quarter million dollars a year to expire in january while continuing them for everyone else. 32% want to renew the tax cuts for everyone. findings seem to strengthen the president's hand in his negotiations >> recall alert for parents from 7 on...
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the jobs report comes on the heels of the ongoing fiscal cliff debate. economists estimate 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year due to uncertainty over the fiscal cliff. aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon, but that meeting ended with no signs of progress. stay with abc7 morning news, 6:30 the opening bell live from the new york stock exchange. 6:45 live to jane king for an update. >>> in a few hours pearl harbor survivors as well as military and coast guard veterans will place a wreath in alameda to mark the 71st anniversary of the japanese attack on the pearl harbor base in hawaii. it will be followed by a 20 within gun salute. more than 2400 americans died when the japanese bombed pearl harbor in a surprise attack december 7th, 1941. the attack helped usher the u.s. into world war ii. 3:45 in afternoon sons and daughters of survivors will attend the 48th annual beacon lighting in honor of pearl harbor day. >>> the iphone is likely coming to t-mobile in the new year, the company says it will add apple products
the jobs report comes on the heels of the ongoing fiscal cliff debate. economists estimate 200,000 fewer jobs have been created this year due to uncertainty over the fiscal cliff. aides to president obama and speaker boehner met yesterday afternoon, but that meeting ended with no signs of progress. stay with abc7 morning news, 6:30 the opening bell live from the new york stock exchange. 6:45 live to jane king for an update. >>> in a few hours pearl harbor survivors as well as military...
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you see it now to his approach on the fiscal cliff about wealth distribution and esop with occupy wall street, which was supported by the unions and by the global socialist movement. it is not just happening here, it is a global movement to the left. so again, this is a part of this megyn: they seem to be trying to say that the rich, and maybe that is banks and what have you -- they say that they got us into this mess and they are saying that jurors and their pensions and blame us. to make 60 or $70,000 per year. which is a decent living in some places but not rich. and it's not fair. that's what they're trying to say. don't buy the narrative that it's all about us and our pensions that it is not fair. teacher actually works without him, and pays 20 or 30% tax. where as somebody who is earning the money from capital gains, which is assets that they may have worked four years ago, is paying 13.9%. that strikes people as unfair. what the are saying is that we should at least have a fair share of taxes being paid. and there is just no conscious -- megyn: weapon? >> was a fair share for th
you see it now to his approach on the fiscal cliff about wealth distribution and esop with occupy wall street, which was supported by the unions and by the global socialist movement. it is not just happening here, it is a global movement to the left. so again, this is a part of this megyn: they seem to be trying to say that the rich, and maybe that is banks and what have you -- they say that they got us into this mess and they are saying that jurors and their pensions and blame us. to make 60...
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but back to the issue of the fiscal cliff, are you being cued in and clued in on what is happening? some republicans have complained that there are negotiations and bargains behind closed doors, that they are getting their information about what is being hammered out, essentially from news report, media reports. do you feel like you are getting enough information? >> i feel like i am being updated regularly. if the question is how i feel about the substance, where they are going, i am not encouraged, especially after the president rejected outright an initial offer by the speaker earlier this week. it didn't happen in a way that gave me confidence that the president is really interested in negotiating. he it gave me the sense that he is not only willing to allow us to go off the cliff burks perhaps he wants to push us off. >> of course, the white house continues to say, that's not what it wants, at least, publicly, but your colleague, senator lindy graham said as much a few days back, he thinks they have made a political calculation that there is a very real possibility that that is
but back to the issue of the fiscal cliff, are you being cued in and clued in on what is happening? some republicans have complained that there are negotiations and bargains behind closed doors, that they are getting their information about what is being hammered out, essentially from news report, media reports. do you feel like you are getting enough information? >> i feel like i am being updated regularly. if the question is how i feel about the substance, where they are going, i am not...
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republican leaders say though are nowhere near on negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and protest in tahrir square as anger continues to grow against egyptian president mohammed morsi. we'll have a live report. >> new information on what may have caused a freight train carrying dangerous chemicals to derail in new jersey. >> heather: the clock is winding down to a potential economic disaster. there has been a lot of talk apparently nothing to show for it. democrats and republicans blaming each other nor the standoff with your tax bill riding on the out come. unless an agreement is reached by the end of the month, bush-era tax cuts will expire triggering a rise in taxes by an average of 5%. that means a middle-class family will pay $2,000 more in taxes and married couples would be hurt because of marriage penalty. it doesn't include the budget consequences. $55 billion would be cut from the pentagon and another $55 billion slashed from domestic programs. an estimated 2 million jobs could be lost pushing the economy back into a recession adding to the misery to those facing tough ti
republican leaders say though are nowhere near on negotiations to avoid the fiscal cliff. >> and protest in tahrir square as anger continues to grow against egyptian president mohammed morsi. we'll have a live report. >> new information on what may have caused a freight train carrying dangerous chemicals to derail in new jersey. >> heather: the clock is winding down to a potential economic disaster. there has been a lot of talk apparently nothing to show for it. democrats and...
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keep in mind again, you know, people call it a fiscal cliff. when you go off a cliff you usually die. my view is there are challenges in front of us. we've had them before. this is pretty significant. but we have a plan in place. no one really likes it, but at the end of the day come january, these things start to happen. the deficit gets a reduction because the tax cuts go away, the budget cuts go into play. the question is are we going to have the wherewithal to give some long-term certainty to the market so they don't have this up and down action of congress. after four years in congress i have to tell you it's one of the most disturbing thing i've seen, the lack of foresite of looking two, three, four, five years down the road. everyone plays to the next week. give it about a 40% chance of some element. the big question is have the markets worked into some of their pricing on stocks and bonds and so forth, some of this anticipation of going over these fiscal challenges? i think they probably have to to a certain degree. but it will be a rou
keep in mind again, you know, people call it a fiscal cliff. when you go off a cliff you usually die. my view is there are challenges in front of us. we've had them before. this is pretty significant. but we have a plan in place. no one really likes it, but at the end of the day come january, these things start to happen. the deficit gets a reduction because the tax cuts go away, the budget cuts go into play. the question is are we going to have the wherewithal to give some long-term certainty...
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if it it doesn't we could go over the fiscal cliff and right now the economy is in a fragile position. >> no one can argue with that one. a lot of criticism on both sides and a lot pointing to republicans that they want to see the fiscal cliff happen. is there any upside if we actually go over the cliff? >> there's no upside if we go over the cliff and what you've seen the last couple of weeks is political theater. that's how we negotiate things here in washington d.c. and the good news, the president put forth a plan and republicans have put forth a plan and i believe that obama will have to come to the table with more spending cuts and entitlement reform and republicans might have to give in to some tax increases and the cbo do a recent report, saying if republicans get what they want in extending the entire bush tax cut plan. it would only increase the gd growth by 1.5%. if we do what president obama wants to do, it will only increase the gdp by 1.25%, having said that, it's just not about tax cuts, doug, it's more about cutting wasteful government spending. >> i was going to ask d
if it it doesn't we could go over the fiscal cliff and right now the economy is in a fragile position. >> no one can argue with that one. a lot of criticism on both sides and a lot pointing to republicans that they want to see the fiscal cliff happen. is there any upside if we actually go over the cliff? >> there's no upside if we go over the cliff and what you've seen the last couple of weeks is political theater. that's how we negotiate things here in washington d.c. and the good...
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>> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos unfolding in the middle east as egypt's military threatens the protestors there. syria preparing to unleash chemical weapons and people are scared seen here running for their lives to prevent two catastrophes from getting a whole lot worse. staechb yates will be with us next. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like ourender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who trieit agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.
>> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos unfolding in the middle east as egypt's military threatens the protestors there. syria preparing to unleash chemical weapons and...
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and for much more on the fiscal cliff on fox news sunday chris wallace will sit down in an exclusive interview with democratic senator charles schumer and bob corker on fox news sunday. check your local listings for time. >> all of the talk about sausage makes me want to go out to 6th avenue and grab something from the vendors. >> the guy with the cart. >> i know. >>> coming up the latest job numbers show the unemployment rate dropping to its lowest levels in four years, but the number of people dropping out of the workforce remains high. so what is going on? we will break it down for you. >>- q. i and it has been 40 years since -- >> and it it has been 40 years since americans walked on the moon and now nasa is focused on other missions. a look at the private company that is planning the next moon shot. >> i understand that some believe we should attempt a return to the surface of the moon first. as previously planned. i just have to say pretty bluntly here, we have been there before. buzz has been there. >>> bottom of the hour and let's get you caught up on the headlines. dallas co
and for much more on the fiscal cliff on fox news sunday chris wallace will sit down in an exclusive interview with democratic senator charles schumer and bob corker on fox news sunday. check your local listings for time. >> all of the talk about sausage makes me want to go out to 6th avenue and grab something from the vendors. >> the guy with the cart. >> i know. >>> coming up the latest job numbers show the unemployment rate dropping to its lowest levels in four...
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the financial advisor gives his take on the looming fiscal cliff. >> the president will want it and get it and win the battle on the higher tax rates on upper income people. >> art lafferks r said the gop still has more cards to play in their hand. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. welcome back everybody. help is on the way for hurricane sandy victims in washington. getting that money approved will not be easy. >>let white house sent letters to john boehner and harry reid requesting 60.4 billion saying after hurricane sandy they're funds necessary to finance. and there is impants . in dc money is quiet . speaker boehner said we have the request and we will view it they need to make sure they don't spend too much money they don't should saying it is our responsible to make sure they are giting the most . that i can sure they are times and targeted. governors of new york and jers. asked for it 79.billion and this is well short of governors and senators are thankful for the
the financial advisor gives his take on the looming fiscal cliff. >> the president will want it and get it and win the battle on the higher tax rates on upper income people. >> art lafferks r said the gop still has more cards to play in their hand. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. welcome back everybody. help is on the way for hurricane sandy victims in washington....
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. >> if is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthist, remember it's only 2%. >> he did not blink. that is the treasury secretary. do they talk like that? >> it's really unique. this treasury secretary is very loyal to this president, treasury secretaries are, but he is saying essentially that the tax rates going up are essential, that the money is not essential, that the dollar figure is not essential, that the rates going up are essential, and that's just interesting. going over the cliff comes with a lot of -- a lot of things that could affect the economy and the treasury secretary knows that. bill: 10% unemployment. tax rates for everybody going higher. what are you hearing on the house side? among the house republicans, whether or not they are behind the speaker, whether they are pulling away from him, where does that stand do you believe? >> reporter: you know, there are some on the house side that have a lot of concerns ab
. >> if is the administration prepared too go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. there is no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthist, remember it's only 2%. >> he did not blink. that is the treasury secretary. do they talk like that? >> it's really unique. this treasury secretary is very loyal to this president, treasury secretaries are, but he is saying essentially that the tax rates going up are essential,...
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bill: hen we have the fiscal cliff. before we go over that cliff we'll pull you back later in the week. martha: there is a potentially dangerous situation taking shape on the west coast. no relief in site as a strong storm has pounded that region. tens of thousands of people are in the dark. we are in the fox extreme weather center with the latest on that pressing situation next. bill: a 95-year-old man left homeless by hurricane sandy but no more. this story will warm your heart just in time for the holiday season. >> he didn't know me from adam and look. see what he did? he's wonderful. [ female announcer ] the humana walmart-preferred rx plan p-d-p gives you a low $18.50 monthly plan premium... and select generic hypertension drugs available for only a penny... so you can focus on what really matters. call humana at 1-800-808-4003. so you can focus on what really matters. music: "make someone happy" music: "make someone happy" ♪it's so important to make meone happy.♪.♪it's so e ♪make just one heart to heart y
bill: hen we have the fiscal cliff. before we go over that cliff we'll pull you back later in the week. martha: there is a potentially dangerous situation taking shape on the west coast. no relief in site as a strong storm has pounded that region. tens of thousands of people are in the dark. we are in the fox extreme weather center with the latest on that pressing situation next. bill: a 95-year-old man left homeless by hurricane sandy but no more. this story will warm your heart just in time...
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bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget
bill: negotiations on that fiscal cliff and his first one-on-one television interview since reelection president obama says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because...
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. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. well, there they were side-by-side, and for real they were in the white house this weekend. president obama taking his message of middle class tax cuts and tax increases for the rich to detroit today. just as michigan is facing a big vote against union organizing in a state long identified with the labor movement. joining me now for our daily fix, msnbc contributor and managing editor of "post politics.com". good day to you. well, first of all, the labor movement really on the ropes now in michigan of all places. michigan where detroit, of course, was the heart of the auto movement, the auto union, and now you've got a vote -- final vote is tomorrow as t
. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner face. >> you know what, republicans, you win, okay? you get what you want, but you lee had man alone. you leave this poor, orange man alone. you okay? >> yeah. >> i can't hear you. >> yes, yes. >> there he is. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington....
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cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the meantime, the anti-union fight, which is michigan. the heart and soul of the labor movement. after saying it was their best prank ever, are these crocodile tears? the aussie dj's are all apologies now that the nurse has tragically committed suicide. >> i mean, personally i'm -- >> the thought that we may have played a part in that is gut wrenching. >> and speaking of tears, "saturday night live" spoofed the fiscal cliff talks this week in that opening skit. president obama says he is giving in to republicans to save boehner fa
cliff. >> there is a growing group of folks that are looking at this and realizing that we don't have a lot of cards as it relates to the tax issue before year end. i mean, we have one house, that's it. the presidency and the senate and the democrats' hands. >> coming up, here congressman chris van holland, the top house democrat in these talks. >> along with bill daley, the former white house chief of staff who prided over the last round of budget negotiations. in the...
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. >>> they are looking for a plan to a void the fiscal cliff. congressmen were on capitol hill talking about a negative impact in the spending cuts kick in january 1st. president obama failed a visit to a northern virginia family -- had a visit to a northern virginia family that that would affect if that happened. >> gives you a sense o of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> still the white house says those across the board spending cuts and tax hikes will take effect if republicans fuse to raise taxes on the wealthiest americans. >>> one of the tea party movements favorite lawmakers is is leaving the senate. south carolina republican jim demint announced yesterday that he's cutting his term short to join the heritage foundation. he said he would not run for a third term in 2016. >>> we're going to get the november jobs report from the labor department. they expect the unemployment rate to hold steady at 7.9% but they think job creation was down substantially from october because of superstorm sandy. >>> apple fans, did you know all yo
. >>> they are looking for a plan to a void the fiscal cliff. congressmen were on capitol hill talking about a negative impact in the spending cuts kick in january 1st. president obama failed a visit to a northern virginia family -- had a visit to a northern virginia family that that would affect if that happened. >> gives you a sense o of the costs involved in very personal terms. >> still the white house says those across the board spending cuts and tax hikes will take...
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. >>> to reach an agreement on a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. financial experts were on capitol hill yesterday to talk about the negative impacts if the automatic tax increases and spending cuts happen on january 1st. president obama visited a northern virginia family who would suffer finally if a -- financially if a deal isn't reached. the president's approval rating is at its highest point since the raid that killdee killed osama bin laden. 42% believe the nation is heading in the right direction. >>> the san diego zoo two new additions. they're 14 week old clouded leopard cubs and their adorable. they are brothers and playful. they like to pounce on each other and climb and use each other as trampolines. they arrived earlier from the nashville view where there's a successful breeding program saying hello for the endangering expertise. they are adorable but grow into big guys. >> you want to take them home until they get really big. >> and send them back to the zoo. >> it's 5:20 hoping to stop the slide. did the raiders beat the broncos in oak
. >>> to reach an agreement on a plan to avoid the fiscal cliff. financial experts were on capitol hill yesterday to talk about the negative impacts if the automatic tax increases and spending cuts happen on january 1st. president obama visited a northern virginia family who would suffer finally if a -- financially if a deal isn't reached. the president's approval rating is at its highest point since the raid that killdee killed osama bin laden. 42% believe the nation is heading in the...
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we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you, bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then, i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org ,, ,,,, ,, . >>> as things stand this morning, we're less than three weeks away from falling over the so-called fiscal cliff. the power play that's all talk and no action. >> boy, it is a beautiful start to the sunday morning in the bay area. winds will pick up. numbers, a little chilly this morning, but one of the warmer days in december on tap. we'll have the details. >> the people in san francisco object to tasers, are
we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you, bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then, i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson &...
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we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson & johnson where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org [ male announcer ] this commercial is not about getting fios; it's about getting fios. that moment after you finally got it, that you actually get it. when you can see blades of artificial grass in their full glory you get it. or the first time you download a two-hour movie in two minutes, you get it. because once you've got it, you get it. [ female announcer ] it's faster. it's better. so, what are you waiting for? now you can get fios internet, tv and phone for just $79.99 a mont
we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson & johnson...
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we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you, bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then, i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org
we'll see what they think about the fiscal cliff this morning. >> osgood: thank you, bob scheiffer. we'll be watching. and next week here on sunday morning ♪ >> osgood: amuseical flight are led zeppelin. >> osgood: we leave you this sunday morning where the bison roam at slew creek in yellowstone national park. >> osgood: i'm charles osgood. please join us again next sunday morning. until then, i'll see you on the radio. captioning made possible by johnson &...
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that's right. 29 days until the fiscal cliff. the real deadline could be even closer. one of the negotiators tells cbs news that to actually get the deal done by the end of the year a plan needs to be in place by but at nd-december. ut at the moment, very few are optimistic about that. >> t >> there's no path to an ag agreement. thates not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest americans. geithneury secretary tim ompromisetalked tough on sunday. promising any compromise must n thede a tax rate increase on the wealthy. >> the only thing that stands in the way of an agreement that's wa ood for the american economy is that a group of republicans weade they're going to block e's increase in tax rates on wealthy americans. >> reporter: geithner says he's optimistic a deal is possible. even as a key negotiator tells bs news the deadline to reach 15tromise is december 15th. e foress needs time for the rocessative process to work. to the house and senate to pass presidentnd for the president to sign it by december 31st. >> right now i wou
that's right. 29 days until the fiscal cliff. the real deadline could be even closer. one of the negotiators tells cbs news that to actually get the deal done by the end of the year a plan needs to be in place by but at nd-december. ut at the moment, very few are optimistic about that. >> t >> there's no path to an ag agreement. thates not involve republicans acknowledging that rates have to go up for the wealthiest americans. geithneury secretary tim ompromisetalked tough on...
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is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: that danger not enough to keep congress in session. it's already quit for the week as most lawmakers assume correctly, they are not players until there's a deal. president obama, in a meeting with some of the country's largest corporations demand that congress raise the debt ceiling without any strings attached. >> if congress in any way suggests that they're going to tie negotiations to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink of default once again as part of a budget negotiation, i will not play that game. because we've got to break that habit before it starts. >> reporter: the president sees the fiscal cliff showdown as an opportunity to break that linkage for good. republicans say they will not increase the debt ceiling now $16 trillion and due to expire in february without more deficit reduction.
is the administration prepared to go over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, absolutely. again, there's no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember, it's only 2%. >> reporter: that danger not enough to keep congress in session. it's already quit for the week as most lawmakers assume correctly, they are not players until there's a deal. president obama, in a meeting with some of the country's largest corporations...
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. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>> shoppers at a seattle macy's had to be hospitalized when an escalator they were riding malfunctioned. >> fire to the end zone. touchdown. >> broncos with their eighth straight win. >> all that -- >> three, two, one! >> my 50th birthday, she gives everybody a car and then she's all, thank you for coming to gayle's birthday! >> we're talking about oprah, right? >> no, of course not. >>> and all that matters. >> south carolina tea party says jim demint is resigning. >> leaving the senate a lot better than i found it. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. >> jim demint leaves some big shoes to fill. then again -- captioning funded by cbs en agai
. >> we've only got 25 days until the fiscal cliff. >> according to "new york times," house speaker john ba boehner has asked democratic leaders to step aside so he and the president can negotiate a deal one on one, and no one is objecting. >>> the crisis in egypt remains volatile, with massive anti-government rallies planned today. >>> heartbreaking survival story for a woman stranded in the snow in the california sierra nevada mountains. >>>...
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. >> the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. >> fiscal cliff negotiations in washington, still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president if he gets serious about solving this problem. >> the duchess of cambridge has left hospital. there for morning sickness. >> how are you feeling this morning, kate? >> as of today, possession of small amounts of marijuana is legal in the state of washington. >>> now the 55th annual grammy awards revealed. the top contender, kanye west and jay-z. >> he's got it. kobe bryant. the greatest player in the history of the los angeles lakers. >> all that, ready for your mistake? >> yeah. i'd like to hear it. >> can eating while driving be distracting. >> no! >> and all that matters. >> former senator alan simpson is bringing his meg aboutssage about the national debt to a new generation. >> gangnam style. >> on cbs "this morning." >> the star? a toddler and tiaras earning a spot on barbara walters list of the 20 m
. >> the administration, are they prepared to go over the fiscal cliff. >> absolutely. >> fiscal cliff negotiations in washington, still up in the air. most lawmakers have gone home for a long weekend. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president if he gets serious about solving this problem. >> the duchess of cambridge has left hospital. there for morning sickness. >> how are you feeling this morning, kate? >> as...
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. >>> well, 30 days and counting to the country's potential fall off the fiscal cliff. avoiding it will depend on what lawmakers in these two buildings do or don't do. if they do nothing, everyone's taxes go up and automatic spending cuts take effect. still, it appears congress and the president are digging in with no deal in sight. >> if they are going to force hi higher rates on virtually all americans because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then that's a choice they're going to have to make. >> this isn't an issue about democrats or republicans. my goodness, this is about our country. >> well, one thing both sides agree on is the government needs to raise more money. how much? how they do it? those are two of the many sticking points and the clock is ticking. >>> a series of suicide car bombings leave five people dead in eastern afghanistan today. inis yo no reports of any u.s. casualties. the taliban has claimed responsibility for the attacks. >>> and in wyoming a college teacher may have saved the lives of several of his students. autho
. >>> well, 30 days and counting to the country's potential fall off the fiscal cliff. avoiding it will depend on what lawmakers in these two buildings do or don't do. if they do nothing, everyone's taxes go up and automatic spending cuts take effect. still, it appears congress and the president are digging in with no deal in sight. >> if they are going to force hi higher rates on virtually all americans because they're unwilling to let tax rates go up on 2% of americans, then...
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the fight over the fiscal cliff shows no signs of easing. coming up at the top of the hour we're expecting to hear from house speak er john boehner and house republicans, who have been meeting this morning. they're not happy with the negotiations. president obama says no deal will be reached without higher taxes on the wealthy. >> a new twist in the case of internet mogul john mcafee, millionaire on the run from police in belize, who want to question mcafee about the shooting of a man, but say mcafee is not a suspect. >>> typhoon kills 274 people in the philippines. it destroyed homes. it left washed out road, downed power lines and lots of damage. >>> dr. phil's stolen '57 chevy has been found. the chevy belair in los angeles while investigating stolen cars. targeting repair shops and making off with the cars. dr. phil's chevy has minor body damage butto otherwise is in good condition. >>> tradition in south carolina was way too much for one giraffe. it was all caught on camera. ooh, melman the giraffe started shaking and jumping up and dow
the fight over the fiscal cliff shows no signs of easing. coming up at the top of the hour we're expecting to hear from house speak er john boehner and house republicans, who have been meeting this morning. they're not happy with the negotiations. president obama says no deal will be reached without higher taxes on the wealthy. >> a new twist in the case of internet mogul john mcafee, millionaire on the run from police in belize, who want to question mcafee about the shooting of a man,...
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we've had sandy, and we have all of this debate going on over the fiscal cliff, that's driving us all crazy, right? >> yes, it is. >> and what it's also doing is that it has gotten the corporate seblgtor in a position where they're not vin investing. they're waiting to see what's happening. nonetheless, we're still creating jobs. if you take into consideration the fact that we have those things, those neglect factors in at the same time regenerating jobs, and that means that there's a significant potential for the economy to grow. >> is it possible that this whole debate and the fiscal cliff, whether or not we go over it or not, would bakt how many people are working the next year? >> it will definitely impact, but i think what the numbers are telling us and what we've seen for the last couple of months is that the affect will not be as great as most people are predicting. you know, we kind of got this y2k kifr syndrome that's going on. it will certainly have an affect, but it also means that we can -- we're in a position to really craft a real comprehensive way to -- >> are these goo
we've had sandy, and we have all of this debate going on over the fiscal cliff, that's driving us all crazy, right? >> yes, it is. >> and what it's also doing is that it has gotten the corporate seblgtor in a position where they're not vin investing. they're waiting to see what's happening. nonetheless, we're still creating jobs. if you take into consideration the fact that we have those things, those neglect factors in at the same time regenerating jobs, and that means that there's...
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for that, we need a dea to avertthe fiscal cliff. let me know what you think. you can find me on facebook or tweet me. my handle is @ali velshi. have a great weekend. >>> you're in the "cnn newsroom." i'm joe johns. fredricka whitfield is off. u.s. investigators are looking into whether a man detained in egypt played a role in the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. egyptian authorities have detained muhammad abu ahmed. he's a well known jihadist who was released from prison after the downfall of former president hosni mubarak's regime.diotti i york. what do we know about the arrest of the aleng ledged terrorist suspect? >> he was picked up a couple weeks ago in ejimegyegypt. joous authorities suspect he may have been involved in the consulate attack in benghazi on september 11th that killed chris stephens and three other americans with direct knowledge of the investigation. the u.s. source tells me the fbi which is conducting the investigation, has not had access to him yet. the source says following the attack, ahmed very quickly popped up on their rad
for that, we need a dea to avertthe fiscal cliff. let me know what you think. you can find me on facebook or tweet me. my handle is @ali velshi. have a great weekend. >>> you're in the "cnn newsroom." i'm joe johns. fredricka whitfield is off. u.s. investigators are looking into whether a man detained in egypt played a role in the attacks on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. egyptian authorities have detained muhammad abu ahmed. he's a well known jihadist who was released from...
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and that would push the fiscal cliff higher for 2013. i'm christine romans. >>> all right, pay attention to this, it would affect you. many of us rely on them. on-line reviews of businesses and products. but did you ever think that giving a negative review would give you in trouble? a d.c. contracting firm is suing a woman for $750,000 for her tough report. she complained that the work done to her property was damaged. sloppy paint, stained carpet. there you go, a toilet, a seal that needed to be replaced. but a judge has sided with the contractor. karen conte is here, thank you for joining us. >> good to see you and finally meet you in person, much better looking in person, i have to say. >> so are you. >> oh, gosh, we all love each other. >> yeah, until after the show. >> i spoke with him yesterday, he said the picture of the carpet, he said that was not his. that was before he replaced the carpet. he is suing for internet defamation claiming he lost thousands in business because of her review. so where did a person's first amendment r
and that would push the fiscal cliff higher for 2013. i'm christine romans. >>> all right, pay attention to this, it would affect you. many of us rely on them. on-line reviews of businesses and products. but did you ever think that giving a negative review would give you in trouble? a d.c. contracting firm is suing a woman for $750,000 for her tough report. she complained that the work done to her property was damaged. sloppy paint, stained carpet. there you go, a toilet, a seal that...
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. >>> and the looming fiscal cliff. the president says raising money on the wealthiest americans could raise a trillion dollars. from the best players in history to the number 1 club in the world. the potential of manchester united unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need them. helping millions of americans over the centuries. the strength of a global financial leader. the heart of a one-to-one relationship. together for your future. ♪ >>> if congress and the president can reach a deal on averting the fiscal cliff it may well mean higher taxes for the wealthiest americans. cnn political editor paul steinhauser explains what that means. >> hey, joe. raising taxes on high earning americans is the biggest sticking point between president obama and congressional republicans as they try to hammer out a deal to
. >>> and the looming fiscal cliff. the president says raising money on the wealthiest americans could raise a trillion dollars. from the best players in history to the number 1 club in the world. the potential of manchester united unlocked. nyse euronext. unlocking the world's potential. since ameriprise financial was founded back in 1894, they've been committed to putting clients first. helping generations through tough times. good times. never taking a bailout. there when you need...
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cliff. this is 30 minutes. >> thank you, tommy. first, let me thank secretary panetta for his unwaiverring support, both for those of us in va, and the men and women who wear and have worn the uniforms of the nation. our close partnership, this meeting that we have today, on their behalf, has never been more important than it is today. entering the holiday season, i thank the men and women who spend these holidays away from their families, defending our nation, we're all very grateful for their service and sacrifice. as leon and iñhr discussed very little of what we do here in va originates here. most of what we work on originates in dod, and that's why achieving our priorities at va requires this close and collaborative working relationship. we have more work to do, but with president obama's strong support and guy dance, we brought the two departments closer together than ever before. we've underwritten joint va-dod medical facilities where they make sense, harmonizing our acquisition dec
cliff. this is 30 minutes. >> thank you, tommy. first, let me thank secretary panetta for his unwaiverring support, both for those of us in va, and the men and women who wear and have worn the uniforms of the nation. our close partnership, this meeting that we have today, on their behalf, has never been more important than it is today. entering the holiday season, i thank the men and women who spend these holidays away from their families, defending our nation, we're all very grateful for...
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>> the major impact is looking at the fiscal cliff. any compromise close to that is going to give the market some upward swing. the gop is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with initial claims at about 390,000, but the big story is really friday as we look to the jobs report. we believe that the effect of the payroll will be at 50,000 range due to the effect of hurricane sandy which could put our unemployment up to an 8% rate. >> all right. we'll be watching that. thanks very much to you both. we appreciate it. of course we'll be looking at this market and whether or not it loses the steam come the big rally today. ticktock, ticktock on the fiscal cliff. my thoughts on the story from timothy geithner. guess what, folks. i think we're going over the cliff. back in a moment. are system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where
>> the major impact is looking at the fiscal cliff. any compromise close to that is going to give the market some upward swing. the gop is under extreme pressure since president obama is definitely going to be seeing a wealthy tax added to it. on the economic news, little light tomorrow with initial claims at about 390,000, but the big story is really friday as we look to the jobs report. we believe that the effect of the payroll will be at 50,000 range due to the effect of hurricane...
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we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it needs efforts. let's make them short for a better future. i think we should be ready as a corporation, being ready for maybe a year of difficult market, difficult situation in the market because that is a ceiling on our growth in terms of economical growth as to be released. it's really me an investment for the future. >> you're seeing a similar situation in france where we're talking about the possibility of capital gains taxes and dividend taxes going much higher. what will that do to the investor class, to the entrepreneurialism that we're seeing
we've got this negotiation for the fiscal cliff. if we go over the fiscal cliff, what is the impact to your business? >> well, there would be an impact on consumption, for sure. so when it comes to puma or mainstream brands in america in sports, there will be a for sure some consequences in terms of consumption. but i see that as an investment for the future. so it might be a little bit different from some of other ceos. we have to get over the fiscal cliff. let's not delay the thing. it...
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we're dealing with the fiscal cliff. we do not have enough money for our own country. >> we need to understand that the fiscal cliff and the climate is not associated. the climate is not waiting for us. developed countries need to make some serious shifting of priorities and they need to allocate what is needed to solve the climate issue. >> anjali appadurai, to a student at the college of the atlantic. she addressed the durban u.n. climate summit. this year, has been allowed back in for the last week, to participate. when we come back, we have an analyst talking about the kocht opus. >> singfortheclimate.com. today at the doha summit, we went to a news conference were major climate negotiator from belgium and the european union sang the song as well. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. we are broadcasting from the 18th u.n. climate change summit. i'm amy goodman. the billionaire brothers charles and david koch are known for funneling vast amounts of money into republican campaigns. the u.
we're dealing with the fiscal cliff. we do not have enough money for our own country. >> we need to understand that the fiscal cliff and the climate is not associated. the climate is not waiting for us. developed countries need to make some serious shifting of priorities and they need to allocate what is needed to solve the climate issue. >> anjali appadurai, to a student at the college of the atlantic. she addressed the durban u.n. climate summit. this year, has been allowed back...
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this is how one man sees the fiscal cliff. this is allen simpson, as in the simpson in simpson/bowles. ♪ >> yep, that may be the most actions the fiscal cliff saw today. here's the scene on capitol hill here at noon. yep, people leaving, members of congress leaving washington, heading home on a wednesday afternoon. one man standing was the house speaker and he says, i'm not going anywhere. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get serious about solving this problem. >> but, of course, it takes two to tango. where does president obama stand? >> we can probably solve this in about a week. it's not that tough. >> he's absolutely right about that. but we heard earlier this evening the president and speaker boehner did speak late today on the phone. that's good news. but in this case, we think we need facetime. they need to sit down face to face, pound it out, face to face breeds trust. even the democrats think the president needs to do a little more in-person work on this. >> the p
this is how one man sees the fiscal cliff. this is allen simpson, as in the simpson in simpson/bowles. ♪ >> yep, that may be the most actions the fiscal cliff saw today. here's the scene on capitol hill here at noon. yep, people leaving, members of congress leaving washington, heading home on a wednesday afternoon. one man standing was the house speaker and he says, i'm not going anywhere. >> i'll be here and i'll be available at any moment to sit down with the president to get...
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do not cooperate with the fiscal cliff idea. rebel and say just extend everything and come back later when the economy is at full -- >> how do you rebel against the fiscal cliff idea? paul, if you listen to boehner and his plan, he sort of says it's erskine bowles plan. is it possible to rebel against an idea marching along? >> i get excited when i hear david say things so far outside the bok. it's not a box. it's a beltway here. there is a long-term crisis and i think david would agree with that. if you actually go back and read what my old boss and his partner wrote almost two years ago now, they said these things, these cuts in tax increases should be back loaded so we don't damage the economy. in the president's proposal, he does have a small infrastructure bank program to try to jump-start some growth, so i think it's a good idea. raising tax rates on the rich. i saw your interview with senator coburn. he has really put in the time here and i admired his work on this. but even a guy like senator coburn who was on the commis
do not cooperate with the fiscal cliff idea. rebel and say just extend everything and come back later when the economy is at full -- >> how do you rebel against the fiscal cliff idea? paul, if you listen to boehner and his plan, he sort of says it's erskine bowles plan. is it possible to rebel against an idea marching along? >> i get excited when i hear david say things so far outside the bok. it's not a box. it's a beltway here. there is a long-term crisis and i think david would...